From: H
Date: 2015-01-12 11:52 GMT+01:00
Subject: Vryheid van spraak in die Weste? Se gat!
To: T, S, P, P, P, L, J, J, B, A, C, F, F, H, H, J, J, M, p
January 10, 2015
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"Cartoon blasphemy” links
Judaic Cartoonist Art Spiegelman told the Canadian Jewish News that those who write satires of Holocaustianity “deserve a bullet.”
Cartoons blaspheming barbaric rabbinic circumcision of infants — these cartoons were denounced by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL):
Cartoon about Israeli venality denounced as “anti-Semitic” and withdrawn by Australian newspaper:
Politically correct liberals are beginning to turn against Charlie Hebdo:
They’re accusing Charlie Hebdo of being “all white people” who were “racist, sexist, homophobic” blah blah blah:
France has free speech which only Muslims violate? That’s a lie! Dieudonne and Robert Faurisson are banned in France.
In France it’s illegal to publish doubts about gas chambers:
Help this link go viral: hilarious Tales of the Holohoax satirical comic book:
Two men in Britain were jailed for distributing Tales of the Holohoax gas chamber cartoons:
Cartoon blasphemy of Holocaustianity is damned by the West:
January 7: An Anniversary shared by Ernst Zündel and Charlie Hebdo:
Links are updated daily here: https://twitter.com/
Pass on this list of links to your own contacts!
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From: Petrus Potgieter <potgieter.petrus@gmail.com>
Date: 2015-01-13 11:38 GMT+01:00
Subject: Re: Vryheid van spraak in die Weste? Se gat!
To: H
Cc: T et al
From: Petrus Potgieter <potgieter.petrus@gmail.com>
Date: 2015-01-13 11:38 GMT+01:00
Subject: Re: Vryheid van spraak in die Weste? Se gat!
To: H
Cc: T et al
die meteorologiese omstandighede van maklik die laaste halfmaand waai my onontkomelik terug tot in my bartonwegse kinderdae van kaskarre-op-en-af-innie-
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From: iDate: 2015-01-13 16:51 GMT+01:00
Subject: Re: [1973uperegte1] Re: Vryheid van spraak in die Weste? Se gat!
To: 1973uperegte1
Cc: H et al
Enigiemand wat hierdie laan van herinneringe bewandel kan nie anders as om nostalgies te raak nie!
Ek onthou die liedjie van Elvis goed - dit is opgeneem toe hy sy diensplig gedoen het in Duitsland en dit was ’n groot storie destyds. Ons het die solus 7-plaatjie by die huis gehad, saam met ander solus 7-plate wat destyds nog in die vorm van die pragtigste poskaarte was. Die draaitafel was nog oorgetrek met so ’n ligbruin vilt-agtige materiaal.
Ek het my eie klein vingertjies destyds (ek dink ek was toe so ses jaar oud) omtrent verbrysel toe ek hulle per ongeluk tussen die binnewerke van 'n ou platgedrukte kinderwaentjie gesit het in 'n poging om myself in my sittende posisie daarop regop te hou terwyl ek teen tempo hewig de bult van Aragonweg in die Baai afgejaag het. Daardie jáág teen die afdraande van bo by die hoek van Lovemoresingel (omtrent bý die hoek van die gronde van Andrew Rabie) tot onder, tot óm die draai, tot ’n mens vanself tot stilstand in die middel van Diazweg gekom het, was darem te lekker! Dít is seker waar ek my “neiging tot spoed” opgetel het waarteen die motorrybewysinspekteur my later van tyd gewaarsku het.
Ek onthou die roomyskarretjies en die outas goed. Hulle was goeie siele en het altyd toegelaat dat elkeen van die bondel kinders ’n beurt kry om onder in sy Mary Poppins karretjie grou om te kry wat hulle gesoek het terwyl hy staan en hanna-hanna met die ousies wat gedurende hulle uitgebreide teetyd op die sypaadjie gesit het of in die straat geslenter het - weet julle, noudat ek daaraan dink en die ousies se lawwe gekekkel onthou, het hy nie naderhand met hulle "geflirt" nie? Nietemin, ek het altyd so ’n wit-en-pienk “wafer” geëet want hulle was die maklikste om te beheer sonder om te mors. Mens kon presies dieselfde roomys in ’n “cone” (wat is die ingels daarvoor nou weer?) gekry het, maar dan het die roomys altyd gesmelt en tot onder in die tippie afgedrup. Dan het die spul só soggie geword en naderhand op die grond geval en daar was jy al jou lekkergoed kwyt - ai, dít was nou sleg!
Wat my ook opgeval het in die klomp Springbokradioadvertensies, waarvan ek 'n hele klompie nog kon saam opsê en -sing, was die prentjie van die ou SAL vliegtuig: daardie stert vat 'n mens darem terug na die dae toe die eenvoudige emblem van die springbok nog kwaliteit beteken het (ten spyte van Hendrik Schoeman se vraag of die passasiers wou vlieg of vreet!).
“... no-one can do any good by trying to hurt somebody with [sic] whose points he differs but ... only good can come from trying to do good to others ...”.
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From: o
Date: 2015-01-16 7:31 GMT+01:00
Subject: Re: [1973uperegte1] Re: Vryheid van spraak in die Weste? Se gat!
To: 1973uperegte1
From: o
Date: 2015-01-16 7:31 GMT+01:00
Subject: Re: [1973uperegte1] Re: Vryheid van spraak in die Weste? Se gat!
To: 1973uperegte1
Spoeg en plak van 'n e-pos wat ek ontvang het...
A GERMAN'S VIEW OF ISLAM
This is by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read.
The author's references to past history are accurate and clear. It's not a lengthy read, it's easy to understand, and it's well worth the read.
The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanay, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist.
A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates.
When he was asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.
'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come.
My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'
We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the spectre of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.
The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history.
It is the fanatics who march.
It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide.
It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave.
It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honour-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque.
It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals.
It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.
The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous.
Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.
China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people..
The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.
And who can forget Rwanda , which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?
History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence.
Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.
Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.
Now Islamic prayers have been introduced into Toronto and other public schools in Ontario , and, yes, in Ottawa too, while the Lord's Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive?). The Islamic way may be peaceful for the time being in our country until the fanatics move in.
In Australia , and indeed in many countries around the world, many of the most commonly-consumed food items have the halal emblem on them.
Just look at the back of some of the most popular chocolate bars, and at other food items in your local supermarket.
Food on aircraft have the halal emblem, just to appease the privileged minority who are now rapidly expanding within the nation’s' shores.
In the U.K, the Muslim communities refuse to integrate and there are now dozens of “no-go” zones within major cities across the country that the police force dare not intrude upon. Sharia law prevails there, because the Muslim community in those areas refuse to acknowledge British law.
As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts - the fanatics who threaten our way of life.
Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this email without sending it on, is contributing to the passivity that allows the problems to expand. So, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on! Let us hope that thousands, world-wide, read this and think about it, and they also continue to send it on - before it's too late.
And we are silent......and then.....silenced.
A GERMAN'S VIEW OF ISLAM
This is by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read.
The author's references to past history are accurate and clear. It's not a lengthy read, it's easy to understand, and it's well worth the read.
The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanay, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist.
A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates.
When he was asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.
'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come.
My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'
We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the spectre of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.
The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history.
It is the fanatics who march.
It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide.
It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave.
It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honour-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque.
It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals.
It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.
The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous.
Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.
China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people..
The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.
And who can forget Rwanda , which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?
History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence.
Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.
Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.
Now Islamic prayers have been introduced into Toronto and other public schools in Ontario , and, yes, in Ottawa too, while the Lord's Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive?). The Islamic way may be peaceful for the time being in our country until the fanatics move in.
In Australia , and indeed in many countries around the world, many of the most commonly-consumed food items have the halal emblem on them.
Just look at the back of some of the most popular chocolate bars, and at other food items in your local supermarket.
Food on aircraft have the halal emblem, just to appease the privileged minority who are now rapidly expanding within the nation’s' shores.
In the U.K, the Muslim communities refuse to integrate and there are now dozens of “no-go” zones within major cities across the country that the police force dare not intrude upon. Sharia law prevails there, because the Muslim community in those areas refuse to acknowledge British law.
As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts - the fanatics who threaten our way of life.
Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this email without sending it on, is contributing to the passivity that allows the problems to expand. So, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on! Let us hope that thousands, world-wide, read this and think about it, and they also continue to send it on - before it's too late.
And we are silent......and then.....silenced.
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From: s
Date: 2015-01-16 12:29 GMT+01:00
Subject: [1973uperegte1] Deurmekaar . . .
To: 1973uperegte1
From: s
Date: 2015-01-16 12:29 GMT+01:00
Subject: [1973uperegte1] Deurmekaar . . .
To: 1973uperegte1
Kyk, ek is nou nie van die vinnigste denkers op dese aardbodem nie. Maar blykbaar was die voormalige (adjunk?) minister Hennie Smit verkeerd toe hy die Kleurlinge as stadige denkers beskryf het (ek het al op my voorgeslagte ingegaan en die bietjie gemengde bloed wat ek het, dateer van so lank gelede dat dit vir praktiese doeleindes as "uitgeteel" beskou kan word. Dog, in beginsel is Hennie Smit se hipotese dan tog korrek?).
Ek is/was verward oor die opskrif van gesprek in die lyn van "spraakvryheid in die weste - se gat", maar wat dan jeugherinneringe opdiep. Mis ek die verband? Is ek deurmekaar?
Dink ek sal verder ondersoek instel en kom af op 'n klomp verwysings in 'n gesprek van 'n ander groep (?) wat my lyk wat wel gevoer was oor die onderwerp. Die bevat 'n verwysing na Wikipedia (nie altyd korrek nie, maar ek vind dit gewoonlik interessant) en wetgewing in Frankryk waaroor gesê word: "
The Gayssot Act or Gayssot Law (French: Loi Gayssot), enacted on July 13, 1990, makes it an offense in France to question the existence or size of the category of crimes against humanity as defined in the London Charter of 1945, on the basis of which Nazi leaders were convicted by the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg in 1945-46 (art.9).
Communist deputy Jean-Claude Gayssot proposed the law. It is one of several European laws prohibiting Holocaust denial. Its first article states that "any discrimination founded on membership or non-membership of an ethnic group, a nation, a race or a religion is prohibited."
Nou is ek weer verward/deurmekaar. Ek kan my tog sekerlik nie op vryheid van spraak beroep as ek gevang word dat ek saamsweer om sedisie/hoogverraad/moord te pleeg nie? Dit (vryheid van spraak) kan tog nie 'n regverdigingsgrond wees om 'n misdryf te pleeg nie? (Strafreg was nooit my gunsteling of sterk vak gewees nie, ek het 'n her daarvoor gekry - so miskien het ek dit nog altyd verkeerd verstaan!). Of moet vryheid van spraak sover gaan om die leuen teen die waarheid te beskerm: daar was nie 'n holocaust nie, daar was nog nie 'n wêreldoorlog in die geskiedenis nie, daar was nie boere oorloë nie, Dingaan het nie vir Piet Retief doodgemaak nie, Jan van Riebeeck het nie aan die Kaap geland nie en die aarde is plat!!!
Dis vir my bietjie deurmekaar...
Groetnis orals!
Ek is/was verward oor die opskrif van gesprek in die lyn van "spraakvryheid in die weste - se gat", maar wat dan jeugherinneringe opdiep. Mis ek die verband? Is ek deurmekaar?
Dink ek sal verder ondersoek instel en kom af op 'n klomp verwysings in 'n gesprek van 'n ander groep (?) wat my lyk wat wel gevoer was oor die onderwerp. Die bevat 'n verwysing na Wikipedia (nie altyd korrek nie, maar ek vind dit gewoonlik interessant) en wetgewing in Frankryk waaroor gesê word: "
The Gayssot Act or Gayssot Law (French: Loi Gayssot), enacted on July 13, 1990, makes it an offense in France to question the existence or size of the category of crimes against humanity as defined in the London Charter of 1945, on the basis of which Nazi leaders were convicted by the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg in 1945-46 (art.9).
Communist deputy Jean-Claude Gayssot proposed the law. It is one of several European laws prohibiting Holocaust denial. Its first article states that "any discrimination founded on membership or non-membership of an ethnic group, a nation, a race or a religion is prohibited."
Nou is ek weer verward/deurmekaar. Ek kan my tog sekerlik nie op vryheid van spraak beroep as ek gevang word dat ek saamsweer om sedisie/hoogverraad/moord te pleeg nie? Dit (vryheid van spraak) kan tog nie 'n regverdigingsgrond wees om 'n misdryf te pleeg nie? (Strafreg was nooit my gunsteling of sterk vak gewees nie, ek het 'n her daarvoor gekry - so miskien het ek dit nog altyd verkeerd verstaan!). Of moet vryheid van spraak sover gaan om die leuen teen die waarheid te beskerm: daar was nie 'n holocaust nie, daar was nog nie 'n wêreldoorlog in die geskiedenis nie, daar was nie boere oorloë nie, Dingaan het nie vir Piet Retief doodgemaak nie, Jan van Riebeeck het nie aan die Kaap geland nie en die aarde is plat!!!
Dis vir my bietjie deurmekaar...
Groetnis orals!
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